Sorry if in the wrong spot but I think this deserves it’s own thread. If New York was selected it would be a massive development, possibly the size of another Hudson Yards. What spots in NY could handle such a massive undertaking? Even if another city is chosen, it will be a massive development. At the least, this should lead to some good discussion!


Amazon’s Request For Proposal Criteria:


Newark should make a bid. RBH’s visions for the city would move forward with haste if the city had a commitment from Amazon to build its HQ there. They might have to make space, however.


Why Amazon should pick Staten Island for its second HQ

If New York City wants any pull in this competition, it needs to remember its forgotten borough — Staten Island.

Let’s face it, the 8.1 million square feet Amazon needs (roughly the size of its Seattle headquarters) is nowhere to be found in Manhattan. It would also be unnecessarily difficult to clinch a real estate deal of that size in Brooklyn, Queens or the Bronx.

Consider Staten Island, where Amazon has already set up shop.

According to the New York Post, the e-commerce giant cut a shrewd deal on the island’s west coast — the same location that was being eyed for an 82,500-seat NASCAR racetrack.

Those plans were nixed, and it’s a good thing they were. The sport of corporate America — because it offers so many places to plaster advertising slogans — doesn’t even report race attendance because admission revenue continues to shrink.

There you you have it. Amazon’s already taking over a group of warehouses being built by Matrix Development Group., expected to bring in 3,000 employees.

Also, Amazon loves New York. Last year, the company purchased a 161,400-square-foot distribution hub for food in Bethpage, Long Island. That makes sense, considering it just took over Whole Foods.

In December 2014, Amazon opened a 40,000-square-foot “Prime Now” hub at 7 W. 34th St. in Manhattan. A year later, it debuted another one in Brooklyn’s Sunset Park.

Staten Island, however, has an underused corporate park nestled in that sweet spot that’s convenient to N.Y.C., New Jersey and all surrounding airports.

Staten Island also needs the reputation bump. Too often New Yorkers scoff at the “parking lot” between Manhattan and New Jersey. An Amazon headquarters could give Richmond County — currently devoid of any real industry or manufacturing — a unique identity.

The development could cost as much as $5 billion to build and run ( h/t the New York Times). It would also bring in more than 50,000 employees.

“We expect HQ2 to be a full equal to our Seattle headquarters,” Bezos, Amazon’s chief executive, said in a prepared statement. “Amazon HQ2 will bring billions of dollars in upfront and ongoing investments, and tens of thousands of high-paying jobs. We’re excited to find a second home.”

This Staten Island native is excited to see his hometown jockey for position.

Amazon would eventually require 8 msf of space for their 2nd HQ. If they do select NYC, it is my hope they could take on a whole brand new 2 msf tower to anchor and set up the rest of their shop in SI or Brooklyn etc near by.


It would be cool to get the first mega tall if we really wanted to get crazy with it.


Why not the Sunnyside Yards?:

Close to transportation with 7 subway lines, close to interstate highways, close to Manhattan, close to international airports. and lots of space to expand.

From this below, we can see that Sunnyside Yards has a potential build-out of 30M sqft… so that’s way more then the required 8M sqft they want by 2028


Amazon wants phase I of HQ2 to be development-ready. Because of the need to cover the yards I doubt they would consider it for their location.


Yeah I saw that requirement, but perhaps there are some sites adjacent to the yards that are development ready? They only need a few hundred thousand sqft for phase one, correct?





we’ll have to see if 2 WTC isn’t already a done deal with Deutsche!


Even if DB took 1m sf, there would still be 1.8m left. Amazon could build at 5 WTC and have a sister campus in JC or Brooklyn.


Amazon wants to hire 50K employees too
SI can’t be as attractive as Manhattan,
so the only solution is to build 8m sq at TWC
NYC needs a real tall one for the new age


Vancouver and Toronto are the only cities in Canada to have pitched an interest so far. (Although it’s very unlikely Amazon would choose either city).


Plus Amazon already has some presence in Newark because Audible is headquartered there


Sorry guys! The N.Y. times picked Denver for Amazon! :slight_smile:


word on the street, Boston has the inside track, being that it is in close proximity to MIT.


not just that, but there will be billions in tax incentives (possibly as much as $100 billion). The corporate welfare will be greater than Massachusetts’ GDP.


I think that Boston and NY are the best choices, but it will go to the city that gives the most money. I suspect that may be Atl, Dallas, or Chi.


This is NY stupidity in extremis! This moronic mindset led to Chase shipping thousands of jobs to NJ and Delaware, perennially rules out NY from getting the Olympics, etc.

“… The city doesn’t plan to offer big financial incentives, considering New York an attractive enough location without them, Glen said.”