NEW YORK | 200 Greenwich St (2WTC) | 1,348 FT | 88 FLOORS | ON HOLD


#1026

it’s an interesting market.
unfortunately, the huge offices haven’t been so popular since ‘08 but these tech companies are signing some pretty big leases.
The big banks, which used to champion these huge buildings, now are all more or less settled down.
People will come eventually, but it will probably come after the next recession. I see the office market drying up soon in preparation for a few years’ market downturn


#1027

Don’t know what the trigger will be but we’re overdue. Running on what exactly…fumes?


#1028

Agreed. It’s kind of ridiculous these days.


#1029

It’s the age of ridiculousness. They will read, watch and hear about us.


#1030

This will not be built unless the office portion is scaled back dramatically. I think that 1.5m sf is the maximum amount of office space that should rise here. The rest should be condos, hotels, and maybe even some rentals.


#1031

Can they build mixed use here?


#1032

If the laws require pure office, I’m sure that they would be amended for this site to accommodate a mixed use tower. No one wants this to be an undeveloped site for ten more years.


#1033

Hopefully.


#1034

I doubt the PANYNJ minds bending a few rules, or helping Silverstein to do so


#1036

I wonder if they are going to complete Vesey St from Church to the intersection of Greenwich and Vesey near the PAC. That section along 2 WTC looks ridiculous and honestly even when construction on Tower 2 resumes they don’t need all that space for staging.

PS: They have opened the temporary side walk on the 2 WTC side of Fulton. Also, three new planters arrived. Looks to be the start of the temp. plaza.

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#1037


Still holding faith for that gap to be filled, but to be honest I agree with most people and want a design to rise and finish the site


#1038

Ugh. 3 WTC turned out ridiculously shorter than the render shows. It actually looks smaller than 4 WTC from that angle. Sad. Tower 2 better not disappoint when it rises someday.


#1039

They should just get Maki to come back and design 2. 4 turned out to be the best out of the current 3. He worked best under the constraints.


#1040

The render was actually incorrect in a few places. I think in the render they have 3 World Trade 80 floors even though it actually has 68, but noticable flaws are the earlier Oculus design and they have the podium 12 floors instead of 11


#1041

They keep marketing it as 80 floors lol. Just like 4 WTC doesn’t really have 72 floors. Its all a scheme lol. I’m just frustrated with how short Tower 3. It looks ridiculous next to 4 WTC from certain angles. Nevertheless it did turn out to be a gorgeous tower in all other aspects so at least we have that!